#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 20 Jun 2001 (GMT)

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[15:40:57] <Tamino> http://63.229.135.213/uol/
[15:42:41] * mrod has done it again ^_^. he didn't realize he was talking with another member of the team ^_^. now he'll learn the member names and repeat ten times, so he can avoid doing this again :-D
[15:43:09] <Tamino> anybody recognize what's on the URL? ;)
[15:43:40] <Nadir> Members: wjp, Colourless, Nadir, Fingolfin, freedman, Dominik
[15:44:12] <mrod> :-)
[15:44:33] <Nadir> I've never played UOL...
[15:45:09] <Tamino> I am creating a server for the old, old pre-alpha client
[15:45:32] <Tamino> in my opinion, the best client of them all :)

[15:45:43] * mrod is happy now, timidity works ^_^
[15:45:58] <Nadir> mrod: generallly if they have IRC op status they are part of the Exult team.
[15:46:02] <Nadir> Apart from chimera
[15:46:04] <Nadir> :)
[15:46:50] <Nadir> Tamino: I had the pre alpha. But it was unusable from Europe...
[15:47:40] <Tamino> welp, I'm ressurecting it! :)
[15:47:48] <Tamino> usable from everywhere... hehe

[15:48:38] <Nadir> Can you still grab hold of it ?
[15:48:52] <Tamino> not really
[15:48:57] <Tamino> but I will make it available

[15:49:08] <Nadir> mrod: how's that Exult music now ?
[15:50:50] <mrod> Nadir: great ! i was very unhappy with the lack of music in the linux version
[15:51:37] <Nadir> Do you have digital sfx ?
[15:51:51] <Nadir> tamino: did the pre-alpha have sound ?
[15:52:00] <Tamino> yessir
[15:52:09] <mrod> Nadir: hmm, i fear i don't :-(
[15:55:47] <Tamino> anyone here know of a good, light-weight webboard?
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[15:59:51] <mrod> i must go now, see you soon :-) bye
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[18:20:52] <mrod> ?date
[18:20:52] <exultbot_> It is now Wed Jun 20 18:20:52 2001 (GMT).
[18:21:18] <mrod> ?help
[18:25:37] <mrod> ?fortune
[18:25:40] <mrod> :-)
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[18:45:41] <wjp> hi
[18:45:59] <mrod> hello
[18:46:48] * wjp takes a peek at that UO server page
[19:10:27] <Tamino> you looked at my project?
[19:10:42] <wjp> briefly, yes
[19:11:40] <Tamino> sorry about all the naked gimps ;)
[19:11:55] <wjp> :-)
[19:12:02] <wjp> clothing not implemented yet? :-)
[19:12:04] <Tamino> haven't got the equipment packets figured out.
[19:12:12] <Tamino> exactly
[19:12:51] <Tamino> the characters you might have seen that are clothed are really full animations, rather than totally modular as most players/NPC's
[19:12:59] <Tamino> I'm working on it ;)

[19:13:54] <wjp> I played UO for a month last year, and the beta for a while. It's kind of addictive, somehow
[19:15:45] <Tamino> I think the pre-alpha has qualities that make it a lot more fun than the current versions.
[19:16:34] <wjp> such as?
[19:16:35] <Tamino> beta was great, too
[19:17:00] <wjp> (never seen the (pre-)alpha)
[19:17:15] <Tamino> check this out - http://www.andrew.net/uol/
[19:17:46] <Tamino> starting with quests, for one... the pre-alpha had the best quest ever associated with UO

[19:18:10] <wjp> quests? oh... those 'go kill someone' quests every NPC was offering in the beta :-)
[19:18:17] <wjp> (that was _so_ broken when I played it :-) )
[19:18:40] <Tamino> you had to delve into a crypt, go into a maze of doors and switches, and finally be led to Myndon's tower to defeat a mage, finally receiving a fire wand/macea
[19:19:04] <Tamino> no, no, nothing like those stupid "quests" that were in the beta
[19:19:42] <wjp> sounds a lot more interesting, but a bit unfeasable when too many people are around
[19:20:34] <Tamino> oh, it's no problem... parties had to go in and do it, and they had to be very tough
[19:21:35] <Tamino> I'm going to create many more quests than that. The pre-alpha map, though, is quite small, so I am also considering extending it.

[19:22:25] <Tamino> you'll also notice that this is level-based, as well as skilled based. I think that was also a nice quality.
[19:22:43] <Tamino> pre-alpha has a special place in my heart, too... it was like a golden age, back then
[19:23:52] <Tamino> there are some very neat areas of the map... parts of this map look more advanced than the current UO...
[19:24:29] <Tamino> multi-level buildings are all over the place, and some are highly integrated with the 3d terrain, rather than basically all being on flat tiles.
[19:24:58] * wjp takes a look at some more screenshots
[19:25:32] <Tamino> most of the shots I've taken don't show any of that, yet, though.
[19:26:51] <Tamino> it's notable also that the code for the clients after this one was started from scratch

[19:27:21] <wjp> I see...
[19:27:29] <wjp> code must've been pretty bad then :-)
[19:30:11] <Tamino> no, it's not bad at all
[19:30:23] <Tamino> there are minimal bugs

[19:30:48] <wjp> really? why did they rewrite it then? design issues?
[19:30:52] <Tamino> they just wanted to take what they had learned and build a foundation for a more robust system
[19:31:03] <wjp> ah
[19:31:39] <Tamino> as in, this client and the official server (now lost to the abyss) wouldn't have been efficient on the massive scale except with heavy modifications
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